Convince me

phineas.poe · Dependant Care Benefits

RE: Convince me

T Square Man · Sports

My thoughts exactly, there are a million bajillion books of research and facts on evolution, while there is one, the Bible, on poof here we are (and probably most other books dealing with it quote the bible so it is the same dealeo).

BUT, I'm guessing Richard posted that on purpose to provoke a flame war, because he is a 4chan junkie and loves that stuff. So don't fall into his juvenile trap.

undecided · Communist

T Square Man wrote:

My thoughts exactly, there are a million bajillion books of research and facts on evolution, while there is one, the Bible, on poof here we are (and probably most other books dealing with it quote the bible so it is the same dealeo).

BUT, I'm guessing Richard posted that on purpose to provoke a flame war, because he is a 4chan junkie and loves that stuff. So don't fall into his juvenile trap.

OOOOHHHHH...

someguyyouknow · Forum Postwhore

Aww Mang! wrote:

NO no no. Darwinism is what's full of holes. Even the most fundamental christian can't deny that evolution occurs.

single celled organisms can evolve.

Multi-celled organisms can only adapt. Our DNA is far too complicated it can only deteriorate it cannot gain complexity.

Adaptation=loosing dominant traits and letting preexisting recessive traits shine through.

Evolution= Mutating DNA actual changes the organism.

Aww Mang! · Drives a Geo

No, evolution is defined as "change over time". So go suck a c ock

antidisestablishmentarianism · CAN'T. STOP. POSTING.

no, i don't think so

antidisestablishmentarianism · CAN'T. STOP. POSTING.

i said that in response to zach accusing rich of starting a flame war

Aww Mang! · Drives a Geo

Aww Mang! wrote:

No, evolution is defined as "change over time". So go suck a c ock

I was just kidding about the whole putting phallic objects in your mouth. Sorry if I offended anyone, I just couldn't resist!

someguyyouknow · Forum Postwhore

Going to church gives me hope, Believing there is more to life than going to school getting a job and dieing is the only thing that kept me from blowing my brains out in middle school , and remain pure has led me into a wonderful relationship. If you can live as a Nihilist you are either much stronger or much weaker than me.

The Libertarian Party · Sports

so i've been reading the bible a bit and i'm struggling spiritually and so far i have only come to the conclusion that no matter how/what i think of evolution or creation, i just want to punch babies.

Aww Mang! · Drives a Geo

someguyyouknow wrote:

Going to church gives me hope, Believing there is more to life than going to school getting a job and dieing is the only thing that kept me from blowing my brains out in middle school , and remain pure has led me into a wonderful relationship. If you can live as a Nihilist you are either much stronger or much weaker than me.

Wait, wait, wait... who said ANYTHING about me being a Nihilist??? confused

phineas.poe · Dependant Care Benefits

Aww Mang! wrote:

someguyyouknow wrote:

Going to church gives me hope, Believing there is more to life than going to school getting a job and dieing is the only thing that kept me from blowing my brains out in middle school , and remain pure has led me into a wonderful relationship. If you can live as a Nihilist you are either much stronger or much weaker than me.

Wait, wait, wait... who said ANYTHING about me being a Nihilist???

haha
yeah, how is atheism nihilism?
they are not synonyms!

just because I don't believe in a higher power it doesn't mean I don't give a shiit about anything. I'm not cruising through life with rudderless apathy and screaming, "NOTHING MATTERS!"

no god doesn't mean nothing matters.
it means I have to make my own meaning, I have to be responsible for my own actions and live my life to it's fullest. Human beings are condemned to be free.

as jean paul sarte says, "existentialism is not so atheistic as to need to continually prove that god doesn't exist, we simply state that even if he did exist, it would not matter"
basically- i'm an atheist, if there would be a god I wouldn't care not because i'm a nihilist, but because it doesn't affect me- it's not the problem, or the solution or any of that.

but seriously, I don't believe in god.

and evolution is also natural selection- weaker traits die off and the ones that continue our existance strengthen or remain.
adaptation is PART of evolution.

phineas.poe · Dependant Care Benefits

here's the sartre quote I spoke of:
Existentialism is nothing less than an attempt to draw all the consequences of a coherent atheistic position. It isn't trying to plunge man into despair at all. But if one calls every attitude of unbelief despair, like the Christians, then the word is not being used in its original sense. Existentialism isn't so atheistic that it wears itself out showing that God doesn't exist. Rather, it declares that even if God did exist, that would change nothing. There you've got our point of view. Not that we believe that God exists, but we think that the problem of His existence is not the issue. In this sense, existentialism is optimistic, a doctrine of action, and it is plain dishonesty for Christians to make no distinction between their own despair and ours and then to call us despairing.

Aww Mang! · Drives a Geo

One other thing, I'm not an athiest either! So i'm even more confused now!

phineas.poe · Dependant Care Benefits

Aww Mang! wrote:

One other thing, I'm not an athiest either! So i'm even more confused now!

bwa ha ha

nicee.

well, you are now, you nihilist!

The Libertarian Party · Sports

my brain hurts

T Square Man · Sports

I'm a church goer too, and I believe in God and Heaven above.

But, I don't walk around with my eyes closed either.

someguyyouknow · Forum Postwhore

Listen to dust in the wind by Kansas. That is what it would be like if there was no God or afterlife.
Everything will be destroyed anyway, so if you don't believe in the after life or that some eternal being will
remember what we did after everything is over.
Even if you make your own purpose it will then be obliterated when you and every one who knew you is dead.
No all atheist believe in evolution, but one thing all atheist have in common is that they believe that when you die you rot in the ground and that is it. All you accomplishments to better humanity will not matter when humanity is gone.
Even if atheist do think their finding their own purpose their purpose wont matter when all purpose is gone forever which is inevitable with out an afterlife or remembrance by an unending unforgetting being.

I think that is pretty dam n close to nihilism.

INTERNET · Forum Dictator

Spoiler: Nothing exists as we know it and we are just bits of code in a giant computer - not even a body in a space machine like in the Matrix

Aww Mang! · Drives a Geo

someguyyouknow wrote:

Listen to dust in the wind by Kansas. That is what it would be like if there was no God or afterlife.
Everything will be destroyed anyway, so if you don't believe in the after life or that some eternal being will
remember what we did after everything is over.
Even if you make your own purpose it will then be obliterated when you and every one who knew you is dead.
No all atheist believe in evolution, but one thing all atheist have in common is that they believe that when you die you rot in the ground and that is it. All you accomplishments to better humanity will not matter when humanity is gone.
Even if atheist do think their finding their own purpose their purpose wont matter when all purpose is gone forever which is inevitable with out an afterlife or remembrance by an unending unforgetting being.

I think that is pretty dam n close to nihilism.

You're not refering to me are you? Because all I was ever really getting at is I don't believe in creationism. confused